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5/07/2014 3:49 pm  #26


Re: ***HALL OF X ROUND 2***

Actually I didn't post the Fifty video.  That was widely circulated on FB.  But here is a video of Vito Alu.  Yes, he should worry about creating better breathers.  After all, this dog is many generations Brave Heart!! 



 


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5/07/2014 4:02 pm  #27


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Here is an Interesting study....Both dogs have been Inbred Father to Daughter.........I feel inbreeding tell you a lot about the stud genotype in most cases...Inbreeding does not create anything new it just brings to the surface what is in the gene pool good or bad

Stude father daughter

http://cdn3.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/1885430.jpg



here is Fifty's inbred Father Daughter





http://cdn3.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/1819187.jpg


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5/07/2014 4:19 pm  #28


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Irongrid wrote:

1/I dont feel the need I should run a dog 6 to 12 miles. I own a car....2/ excalibur will hang for 20-30min maybe u should get out more.n has a one inch muzzle..3/I dont think anyone would spend a couple of stacks to see the dog get tore up in the woods its just reality of it.n4/idol does quite well at sport work but for the moment we r takin some time offffff... tony likes her drive...Henry etc....my trainers etc..so to to be honest ur opion doesnt affect mine lol..as far as seeing my dog u will in due time no hurryi dont need to hype up a dog I ain't selling nothing.lol..but maybe u should open ur eyes.XII XIX

Not my opinion, I asked simple questions pertaining to your staments

I asked;

She keeps up with your standard dogs, lets see your standard dogs and lets see her?

What does she keep up with them at?

Hang time, 6 mile run, sport work, hog catching ?????

But you seem not to want to back your statements.....You stated you had Standard dogs that She keeps up with. I asked you to share these Standard dogs you have that she keeps up with?
I asked what they do that she can keep up with? 

anyone can say anything , .........but it does not make it true if you can't back it up.

Instead of answering the question you went into avoidance...which is an answer that is very clear.



 


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5/07/2014 4:33 pm  #29


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CCB wrote:

Actually I didn't post the Fifty video.  That was widely circulated on FB.  But here is a video of Vito Alu.  Yes, he should worry about creating better breathers.  After all, this dog is many generations Brave Heart!! 



 

Munson is a Pet, Wrecking Bull's brother 75% the exact same pedigree, he is twice as old, twice as big just an overweight house dog......unlike Wrecking Bull he is not kept thin he has not had pallet surgery and he is not being bred 20times before he turned 3yrs old. He has an elongated soft pallet like most of the bully ABs have to some extent, and being over weight makes it worse. He is a Beloved pet and is not polluting the Gene pool.

Wrecking Bull his brother, is being bred to anything with a blood twat, Wrecking Bull comes from a litter than has a Dead Brother that Stroked out at under 2yrs of age, a House dog that died when being let out to go to the bathroom, His sister Tertra has been saved repeatedly and Joe a very experienced Trainer and AB owner/Breeder claims she was the worst breathing AB he has ever seen..........Wrecking Bull is a huge departure in Height, and Muzzle length to his Parents and Pedigree, Wrecking Bull's Muzzle is way below the Breed Standard, his Height in below the breed standard, his Muzzle is nearly half the minimum length, he has produced pups that died or had to be destroyed before the age of 12 weeks whole litter of Dysplastic dogs with a female PennHIP's in the .4s.  He produces more exttreme Olde Type, Screw tailed pups than any stud I know in exsistance today...........all of this and you are mass breeding him to anything 20plus breeding attempted???


http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/holland2003/small/spawntheman.JPG


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http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/holland2003/small/spawntheman.JPG


http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/2014winter/small/pocketbull-001.jpg

 

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2013/small/spawntheman-001.jpg


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http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2013/small/wt.-001.jpg


 One of these dog is not like the others Troy
 


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5/07/2014 4:40 pm  #30


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Opps I forgot I had u blocked from fb ^^I keep my dogs very open to the public eye so there has never really been any need for me to PROVE ANYTHING...I will tell barb to post up any videos or pics she has. I do agree on u on the hole inbreeding thing ....which is why u r a confusing fellow u just stated how much u like Gigli n would take her back to her father......sayyyyyyyyy whatttttttttt lol


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

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5/07/2014 4:45 pm  #31


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Irongrid wrote:

Opps I forgot I had u blocked from fb ^^I keep my dogs very open to the public eye so there has never really been any need for me to PROVE ANYTHING...I will tell barb to post up any videos or pics she has. I do agree on u on the hole inbreeding thing ....which is why u r a confusing fellow u just stated how much u like Gigli n would take her back to her father......sayyyyyyyyy whatttttttttt lol

More miss information.....Where have I said anything against inbreeding??? 

But I see again you can not answer the simple question pertaining to claims you posted, just more divertion
 


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5/07/2014 4:47 pm  #32


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The difference is that WB can breath LOL!!



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5/07/2014 4:53 pm  #33


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Wat part of it dont u seem to understand? Have u gotten this dumb throughout the years.the bitch can breath!!!! Has drive!!!! Etc has a good temp! No one is deverting.it is simple in order to have a performance dog u must first have a functional one fool! I already said barb would post up any video I had of the bitch.. ur a trip


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 4:54 pm  #34


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Troy how many ABs have you had Pallet Surgery on

Answer the question for Once Troy.

Didn't you start getting a discount after 6 dogs done?

Have you told the people that got pups off your altered dogs their parents had Pallet surgery?

Do you think Wrecking Bulls littermates Dieing and being the worst breathers in the breed effect his genetics????

Now Troy grow some balls and answer these questions honestly


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5/07/2014 4:55 pm  #35


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Irongrid wrote:

U NEVER DID ANSWER MY ? WHEN U CAME TO MIAMI HOW MANY DOGS DID U SEE STROKING OUT OR HAD TO BE HOSED DOWN?

 
Dont forget to answer the ?


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 4:59 pm  #36


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Irongrid wrote:

Wat part of it dont u seem to understand? Have u gotten this dumb throughout the years.the bitch can breath!!!! Has drive!!!! Etc has a good temp! No one is deverting.it is simple in order to have a performance dog u must first have a functional one fool! I already said barb would post up any video I had of the bitch.. ur a trip

You said she keeps up with your STANDARD DOGS?

What Standard dogs do you own? What is so hard to answer?

You said she keeps up with them,....I asked at what...Why is that so hard to answer?



 


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5/07/2014 5:02 pm  #37


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BHB wrote:

Troy how many ABs have you had Pallet Surgery on

Answer the question for Once Troy.

Didn't you start getting a discount after 6 dogs done?

Have you told the people that got pups off your altered dogs their parents had Pallet surgery?

Do you think Wrecking Bulls littermates Dieing and being the worst breathers in the breed effect his genetics????

Now Troy grow some balls and answer these questions honestly

Outcrosses will do a program GOOD!! 

WB daughter V......................



 


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5/07/2014 6:47 pm  #38


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BHB wrote:

Irongrid wrote:

Wat part of it dont u seem to understand? Have u gotten this dumb throughout the years.the bitch can breath!!!! Has drive!!!! Etc has a good temp! No one is deverting.it is simple in order to have a performance dog u must first have a functional one fool! I already said barb would post up any video I had of the bitch.. ur a trip

You said she keeps up with your STANDARD DOGS?

What Standard dogs do you own? What is so hard to answer?

You said she keeps up with them,....I asinbreeded at what...Why is that so hard to answer?



 

 
I own a rayban daughter y you would care is beyond me ...v ...its not hard to answer at all..i have also owned lucas daughter a tyson son breed to twister u already now that remeber u told me to breed her to bmj etc.also a shake son james grand dad that u have also seen .he has never really worked thou always had him more as a pet.2/ I ALREADY ANSWERED DRIVE BREATHING TEMP.ETC..if u dont want to believe or expect the fact that there r bully dogs that exhibit good traits thats ur problem not mine.i have also taught of breeding her to Isabelle s son....but only when I am good n ready to take that offspring to its full potential in the working field.at the moment I just dont have the time to invest 8 hrs a week on a feild.so I will hold off on that for the time being...


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 6:49 pm  #39


Re: ***HALL OF X ROUND 2***

Irongrid wrote:

Irongrid wrote:

U NEVER DID ANSWER MY ? WHEN U CAME TO MIAMI HOW MANY DOGS DID U SEE STROKING OUT OR HAD TO BE HOSED DOWN?

 
Dont forget to answer the ?

 
BUT U HAVE YET TO ANSWER THIS.....


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 6:49 pm  #40


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Does EVERY post on this board have to revolve around WB? Or BAS? Or Braveheart dogs? Seriously...I can't imagine feeling the need to post pics/videos of my dogs on a thread that has nothing to do with them, especially when the content being posted makes up 90% of what is on this board. Smh

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5/07/2014 6:51 pm  #41


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SIMPLYINCREDABULL wrote:

Does EVERY post on this board have to revolve around WB? Or BAS? Or Braveheart dogs? Seriously...

 
Exactly^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^keep it on topic!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by Irongrid (5/07/2014 6:53 pm)


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 7:11 pm  #42


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If I were to pick between Fifty and Stude. purely based on looks I would lean slightly towards Fifty. If I chose based on productions I'd lean towards Stude.

 

5/07/2014 7:55 pm  #43


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Like I mentioned Baker may have sons out there but they havent been campained... I love most all his daughters... especially Lambo... Would love to see his sons... and there are males that just throw phenom females that you can make great studs from... win win situation...

And yes 50 does have a ton of breedings over Baker... that has to be put in perspective...


Uncle Ish

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5/07/2014 9:13 pm  #44


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SIMPLYINCREDABULL wrote:

Does EVERY post on this board have to revolve around WB? Or BAS? Or Braveheart dogs? Seriously...I can't imagine feeling the need to post pics/videos of my dogs on a thread that has nothing to do with them, especially when the content being posted makes up 90% of what is on this board. Smh

 
Totally agree with you Dannie..


LET THEM HATE SO LONG AS THEY FEAR

"We are all attracted by short-cuts, quick fixes and easy solutions.But character takes time to shape and build."
 

5/07/2014 9:30 pm  #45


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To be honest, I couldn't imagine posting this on FB trying to beg for votes LOL!!  Hell, your acting like this is life or death!!


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5/07/2014 9:44 pm  #46


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I didn't say "Vote for Studebaker," Troy. I've never been about trying to rack up the most stud services. To be honest- I could care less if I stud my dog out or not, and I've turned down more than I've approved to breed to him. This thread has gotten more votes than the last post of this type, and maybe that possibly is because of my Facebook post. I appreciate what you said about my boy, but try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. I would never post a video or pics of Studebaker or any of my dogs on a post about yours. Maybe I'm just confident enough in the attention they get on their own merit. Or I don't need everyone's approval for what I do.


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5/07/2014 9:45 pm  #47


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Dannie, I was not trying to hi jack your post.  Just not going to let Vito run around and talk Shizzy.  I am all for moderators removing posts that don't have anything do do with the thread!!


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5/08/2014 12:38 am  #48


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SIMPLYINCREDABULL wrote:

Does EVERY post on this board have to revolve around WB? Or BAS? Or Braveheart dogs? Seriously...I can't imagine feeling the need to post pics/videos of my dogs on a thread that has nothing to do with them, especially when the content being posted makes up 90% of what is on this board. Smh

 
Leroy's the best dog ever ever ever!!!!

Ok seriously back on topic... O wait btw lets talk about Kaufmann bullies.


Jk Dannie with love u have a valid point


"Where being a bully won't get ya sent to the principal."

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5/08/2014 10:38 am  #49


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This is Baker vs Fifty... for fun...


Uncle Ish

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     Thread Starter
 

5/08/2014 2:59 pm  #50


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Uncle Ish wrote:

Here is round 2 of our stackup..Once again we are putting together the best of the best in the breed..Our choices for this round are:

Studebaker vs Fifty

This is an eye candy vote..Feel free to share your thoughts during voting..

In your opinion who gets the vote? and why?

Studebaker 
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/barbiej64/1526320_795979107082104_436510676_n.jpg


Fifty
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/barbiej64/MegabullsFiftyofFastlane.jpg



 

I voted  Studebaker as he has been tested in the show ring,Working and a producer of sound offspring .

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