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5/15/2015 8:39 am  #1


NUFF SAID

3 yrs of talk mad smack about Brave Heart, Braudzilla, Go Bullistic, Greyhound, Staffy, Great Dane, Pit, Black Mouth Cur, American Bully and so much other stupidity I can not remember it all ....Still his actions tell the truth.  Troy gave these guy both these dogs, These were Stud fee pups  and Troy gives nothing without strings attached.  Just like everything Troy has it revolves around Brave Heart Blood. Every Taboo litters has crapped out the only decent dogs came from Brave Heart males. His grand  No Brave Heart Breeding  Caddy to Taboo was a Total wash out...I'm sure he is blaming it all on Caddy, because he claims Taboo is the best Proven ??Unproven producer ever...4 litters Zero keepers, except for one Cat Fish female Who can not pass a hip evaluation....She has a " My Vet said" hip eval.  Typical Troy hyporitical BS  Everyone else is a scummbag breeder if they dont Health Check everything thjing possible, but when he doesnt its all Okey Dokey??? Cat Fish is from  Duke Brave Heart Bloodline tightest PH,24.24...but bred to Taboo he could not pull the tight hips his dad did with  Taboo??? He also could not throw the Brave Heart Structure, Cat Fish is twisted in the Back legs that is why you never seen he feet unless the front feet block a true view of the rear, 90% of he pics are in tall grass or running....so this month his best of the best is a milktoast looking bitch , that can not pass a PennHIP, and has poor structure???? 3/8th Brave Heart wasn't enough????
This guy is comical and can not even be honest with himself.  

Remember the Anti olde Movement ???now he is the President of the Pocket AB owner of the Poster Child of the Movement Wrecking Bull???

Remember Tigh PennHIps, Tight Skin, Muscle, Structure. Black Plague ???? Now that is out the window...Forest from the trees...LOL

Remember he said he was breeding away from Brave Heart 3 yrs ago...Well do not think for a second if this litter has anything he sees promising he will take it and it will be the best pup he ever saw and down play the Fact that it is 7/8th Brave Heart Bloodline with Jaqc, Bullistic, Braudzilla, Huggy, Gaucho and many shots of BMJ????


Nuff said


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How[/url] is it that everything Troy say is 100% Honest in his eyes, but his actions fly in the face of his rederic????
 If my bloodline is Shizzy, if they are Greyhound crosses, if they are the kiss of death, why is he bragging on them? why is he using them, why is he charging stud fees on them? why after three years of his 180 degree turn of what he swore was the truth about Brave Heart, is he still not moving on??? Why is he selling BMJ, Gaucho , Wrecking Bull breedings????????????? Why is he promoting dogs that are deep Brave Heart Bloodline ???? Trying so hard to leave the pedigrees off????

He claims Wrecking Bull is the Chit and great producer, that fits the standard and should be mass bred to anything? Yet Wrecking bull is only line bred on Go bullistic and Braudzilla the direct sone of Inbred Go bullistic so BMJ?

how is it that Show wins, Working Titles, Health Certs = proven dogs   Proving they are superior and anyone saying different without competing and proving is just talk?  but lets compare  BMJ's proven Titles to Wrecking Bull's???Not even Close all the things BMJ has competed and won  now means nothing compaired to Wrecking Bull's Hearsay BS.... Wrecking Bull has never won a Hardest Hitting, , Iron Dog, 12 Best in Breeds, Cal 1, Super Bull, he isnt a Dual Grand Champion, he does not fit any standard in Muzzle, and Height???? Wrecking Bull has donme nothing but ejactulate into Troys hand to be AI's to 30 some odd females...Yet BMJ has done it all and then some comepared to Wrecking Bull and in only 6 breeding produced More dogs of unequaled Structure, Muscle, true AB Type,

Troy claims Wrecking Bull is 22inches tall , but he never will picture him next to another dog, not even puppies, Rickey Rich surely could afford a wicket and make a video Proving it  but he must not of thought of that or he didnt want another replay of his measuring Wrecking Bulls Muzzle. He claims his dogs breath great but he will not video tape them running in the heat like I have with my dogs...lets see Wrecking Bull running 3 miles in 93 degree heat in July???Not gona happen

how is it that Brave Heart's linebred Greyhounds have shorter muzzles than Taboo's last litter???
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-002.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddygrl-001.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-001.jpg
....so
bad you have to put it down?

[url=http://imageevent.com/voodooambull/dec2013?p=42&w=3&z=2]http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/dec2013/websize/098.JPG

some[/url] how this he says is Greyhound and this is  not even 3/16th Standard 13/16th bully ?
[url=http://imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014?p=23&w=3&z=2]http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-001.jpg


talk[/url] is cheap...actions speak louder than lies  Nuff Said
 


Love off
 

5/15/2015 10:23 am  #2


Re: NUFF SAID

That's the same thing I see on this guy "FAKE" all over him... criticizing BH with a passion and all he has learned probably come from him and he "STILL" using his blood and denied that he is doing so ....what the hell people get to know him for been BH# 1 advocate ......what a douchebag!

 

5/15/2015 11:01 am  #3


Re: NUFF SAID

Troy is breeding to the black Chasteen stud??? I'm a little lost...


Uncle Ish

"Your humble servant"
 

5/15/2015 11:21 am  #4


Re: NUFF SAID

First of all it isn't my breeding.  Second of all both dogs exhibit outcrosses!!  Dragon has Dailey Blood!!  cricket has Kennedy top and bottom!!  No one is breeding BH straight up!!  That is why they get better results!!  Chasten, Cold Country, Broadbuilt, Spikes etc!!  Why are our dogs so different??  Why do we get way different results than Vito??  I will help you, we aren't breeding on Jacq!!  Don't be mad V, and don't try to claim what we do and produce!!  Your dogs look nothing like ours!!  Because we didn't select like you!!  Show us all these dogs you are producing that look like ours!!

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5/15/2015 11:26 am  #5


Re: NUFF SAID

And Vito, break down Jacqs ped and show me why he looks like he does!!  Caddy produces a standard/ hybrid type!!  Bullistic and inbred Bullistic does not!!  So why does Jacq look like he does and why does he produce his type so consistently!!  Dogs reproduce their peds except in Jacqs case!! Because his ped is hung and doesn't show his grand father being a greyhound!


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5/15/2015 2:23 pm  #6


Re: NUFF SAID

BHB wrote:

3 yrs of talk mad smack about Brave Heart, Braudzilla, Go Bullistic, Greyhound, Staffy, Great Dane, Pit, Black Mouth Cur, American Bully and so much other stupidity I can not remember it all ....Still his actions tell the truth.  Troy gave these guy both these dogs, These were Stud fee pups  and Troy gives nothing without strings attached.  Just like everything Troy has it revolves around Brave Heart Blood. Every Taboo litters has crapped out the only decent dogs came from Brave Heart males. His grand  No Brave Heart Breeding  Caddy to Taboo was a Total wash out...I'm sure he is blaming it all on Caddy, because he claims Taboo is the best Proven ??Unproven producer ever...4 litters Zero keepers, except for one Cat Fish female Who can not pass a hip evaluation....She has a " My Vet said" hip eval.  Typical Troy hyporitical BS  Everyone else is a scummbag breeder if they dont Health Check everything thjing possible, but when he doesnt its all Okey Dokey??? Cat Fish is from  Duke Brave Heart Bloodline tightest PH,24.24...but bred to Taboo he could not pull the tight hips his dad did with  Taboo??? He also could not throw the Brave Heart Structure, Cat Fish is twisted in the Back legs that is why you never seen he feet unless the front feet block a true view of the rear, 90% of he pics are in tall grass or running....so this month his best of the best is a milktoast looking bitch , that can not pass a PennHIP, and has poor structure???? 3/8th Brave Heart wasn't enough????
This guy is comical and can not even be honest with himself.  

Remember the Anti olde Movement ???now he is the President of the Pocket AB owner of the Poster Child of the Movement Wrecking Bull???

Remember Tigh PennHIps, Tight Skin, Muscle, Structure. Black Plague ???? Now that is out the window...Forest from the trees...LOL

Remember he said he was breeding away from Brave Heart 3 yrs ago...Well do not think for a second if this litter has anything he sees promising he will take it and it will be the best pup he ever saw and down play the Fact that it is 7/8th Brave Heart Bloodline with Jaqc, Bullistic, Braudzilla, Huggy, Gaucho and many shots of BMJ????


Nuff said


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How[/url] is it that everything Troy say is 100% Honest in his eyes, but his actions fly in the face of his rederic????
 If my bloodline is Shizzy, if they are Greyhound crosses, if they are the kiss of death, why is he bragging on them? why is he using them, why is he charging stud fees on them? why after three years of his 180 degree turn of what he swore was the truth about Brave Heart, is he still not moving on??? Why is he selling BMJ, Gaucho , Wrecking Bull breedings????????????? Why is he promoting dogs that are deep Brave Heart Bloodline ???? Trying so hard to leave the pedigrees off????

He claims Wrecking Bull is the Chit and great producer, that fits the standard and should be mass bred to anything? Yet Wrecking bull is only line bred on Go bullistic and Braudzilla the direct sone of Inbred Go bullistic so BMJ?

how is it that Show wins, Working Titles, Health Certs = proven dogs   Proving they are superior and anyone saying different without competing and proving is just talk?  but lets compare  BMJ's proven Titles to Wrecking Bull's???Not even Close all the things BMJ has competed and won  now means nothing compaired to Wrecking Bull's Hearsay BS.... Wrecking Bull has never won a Hardest Hitting, , Iron Dog, 12 Best in Breeds, Cal 1, Super Bull, he isnt a Dual Grand Champion, he does not fit any standard in Muzzle, and Height???? Wrecking Bull has donme nothing but ejactulate into Troys hand to be AI's to 30 some odd females...Yet BMJ has done it all and then some comepared to Wrecking Bull and in only 6 breeding produced More dogs of unequaled Structure, Muscle, true AB Type,

Troy claims Wrecking Bull is 22inches tall , but he never will picture him next to another dog, not even puppies, Rickey Rich surely could afford a wicket and make a video Proving it  but he must not of thought of that or he didnt want another replay of his measuring Wrecking Bulls Muzzle. He claims his dogs breath great but he will not video tape them running in the heat like I have with my dogs...lets see Wrecking Bull running 3 miles in 93 degree heat in July???Not gona happen

how is it that Brave Heart's linebred Greyhounds have shorter muzzles than Taboo's last litter???
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-002.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddygrl-001.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-001.jpg
....so
bad you have to put it down?

[url=http://imageevent.com/voodooambull/dec2013?p=42&w=3&z=2]http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/dec2013/websize/098.JPG

some[/url] how this he says is Greyhound and this is  not even 3/16th Standard 13/16th bully ?
[url=http://imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014?p=23&w=3&z=2]http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-001.jpg


talk[/url] is cheap...actions speak louder than lies  Nuff Said
 

Nail on the head, I see the spin coming strong already!  Tons of other lines to breed to but for some reason he keeps coming back to the well lmao! I guess it's too hard to say I liked the combinations Braveheart or Dailey had put together and and I want to build off those lines! 

But what does he do, we'll just read the stuff he types next! Hilarious!


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5/15/2015 4:21 pm  #7


Re: NUFF SAID

It is very clear what I have done.  I have taken the best of what BH and Dailey had to offer.  And I have tested, evaluated and proven them.  Then I will breed selectively for what I like.  I have been able to take what I like from BH and from Dailey.  And produce a better dog!!  Same can be said for Chasteen's, and Broadbuilt.  Tasha has taken the dogs to another level, and so is Chris.  Dogs with great construction, type and health.  Where are these BH dogs that look like what we are producing??  Have you seen what Vito is producing LOL??


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5/15/2015 4:40 pm  #8


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Vito, tell me how to produce these dogs??  I have been incapable of reproducing this type of dog.  Tasha has not been able to produce it either...............................Where did we go wrong??

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5/15/2015 5:43 pm  #9


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I don't know why my pups look like this..................

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5/15/2015 5:48 pm  #10


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I don't know why Tasha's pups look like this..........

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5/15/2015 5:49 pm  #11


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I don't know why Jersey Strong pups look like this...............

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5/15/2015 5:51 pm  #12


Re: NUFF SAID

Why do my pups look like this.....................

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5/15/2015 6:27 pm  #13


Re: NUFF SAID

Why do Jersey Shore pups look like this................................

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5/15/2015 6:33 pm  #14


Re: NUFF SAID

All those pups kind of look like what you used to produce......................Pre Greyhound!!  NUFF SAID LOL!!  Our dogs produce like this..................because this is what is behind them!!

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How the hell did you get this V??  We can't produce it!!

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5/15/2015 6:43 pm  #15


Re: NUFF SAID

Why do Broadbuilt pups look like this??



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5/15/2015 6:54 pm  #16


Re: NUFF SAID

CCB wrote:

First of all it isn't my breeding. Second of all both dogs exhibit outcrosses!! Dragon has Dailey Blood!! cricket has Kennedy top and bottom!! No one is breeding BH straight up!! That is why they get better results!! Chasten, Cold Country, Broadbuilt, Spikes etc!! Why are our dogs so different?? Why do we get way different results than Vito?? I will help you, we aren't breeding on Jacq!! Don't be mad V, and don't try to claim what we do and produce!! Your dogs look nothing like ours!! Because we didn't select like you!! Show us all these dogs you are producing that look like ours!!

Everything I posted is spot on and everyone knows it.  In your usual hyper school girl hissy fits you  throw up as many lies, half truths, spin and stupidity as you can to try to devert from the facts and reality.

You gave Dustin these two dogs, you set him up as a "Back Yard breeder" as you like to call people  nhecks, "Not PROVEN" in the Troy Churchill angrey little prick hypoctritical Criteria.

You say both dogs are Outcrossed?

this bitch is 15/16th Brave Heart Blood 1/16th  Kennedy's Bam Bam 2
read the pedigree 15/16th is not an outcrossed pedigree...hell you could have 1/8th of another breed in there and it would still be an AB ...1/16th of different blood and you call that an out cross???? BullC h it  complete nonsense. Your next spin and devertion tactic is to say I'm trying to take credit for the breeding or this dog...I saw this dog, I'd of culled her, she is 18in tall and soft as a marshmellow. http://pic.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/1313907.jpg

Read the Pedigree it is deep line bred on my breedings my dogs

[url=http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/american_bulldog/dog.html?id=1313907-venns-arrested-development-of-badger-tuff17]http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/american_bulldog/dog.html?id=1313907-venns-arrested-development-of-badger-tuff

17[/url] shots of Braudzilla, 6 shots of Go Bullistic , 15 out of 16 dogs in the first 4 generations Brave Heart created, My work, My sort, My tests.......Linebreeding - 5 generationsInbreeding coefficientOccurrencesAncestorWright'sHardiman's4 - 4,51ST BULLY ABNA CH Brave Heart's Braudzilla PH.28.3600.79%04.49%        ↳5 - 5        ↳Bailey's/Manstopper's Ironman Tyson of MGK          ↳5 - 5        ↳Dailey's Mustang Sally  4,4 - 4,4,5Brave Heart's Go Bullistic PH.36.3200.81%08.01%        ↳5,5 - 5,5        ↳Brave Heart's Loggerhead          ↳5,5 - 5,5        ↳BH's Destiny Child of KMK, PH .60.60  4 - 5Brave Heart's Jazmine PH-0.48/0.4800.42%04.69%




She is Jaqc's Grand baby ...LOLhttp://pic.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/820594.jpg

between her and Wrecking Bull they are 7/8th Brave Heart read the pedigree Linebred on my dogs 8 generation deep.....1/8th Kennedy   that is not an outcross pedigree that is a deep and tight line breeding.


The point is  you say one thing and do another.....you talk ten types of BS on Brave Heart yet that is all you breed, that is all you have is lower quality Brave Heart dogs. 
Your actions prove you are not honest in your rederic,,,,3 yrs you have made it a point to lie, slander, spin 180 degree from the Brave Heart dogs that made you , declaring them all kinds of nonsene the kiss of death, greyhound crosses, Blah Blah Blah.......you claim there are a bunch of better breeders???

Then why dont you go get the great blood, breed to the better bloodline???
Why haven't you line bred on Kennedy Bloodline?
Why haven't you linebred on Dailey?????
Still to this day you are just a Photographer, Show dog Handler, Hype man and PIMP of Bracve Heart Bloodline Studs....10 yrs in and yiou have not produced anything noteworthy.......

Your game plans seems to hope I die or get run out of the breed, then my bloodline will become all yours and you can finally be a respected Breeder instead of the  angry AB Court Jester.








 


Love off
     Thread Starter
 

5/15/2015 7:28 pm  #17


Re: NUFF SAID

BHB wrote:

CCB wrote:

First of all it isn't my breeding. Second of all both dogs exhibit outcrosses!! Dragon has Dailey Blood!! cricket has Kennedy top and bottom!! No one is breeding BH straight up!! That is why they get better results!! Chasten, Cold Country, Broadbuilt, Spikes etc!! Why are our dogs so different?? Why do we get way different results than Vito?? I will help you, we aren't breeding on Jacq!! Don't be mad V, and don't try to claim what we do and produce!! Your dogs look nothing like ours!! Because we didn't select like you!! Show us all these dogs you are producing that look like ours!!

Everything I posted is spot on and everyone knows it.  In your usual hyper school girl hissy fits you  throw up as many lies, half truths, spin and stupidity as you can to try to devert from the facts and reality.

You gave Dustin these two dogs, you set him up as a "Back Yard breeder" as you like to call people  nhecks, "Not PROVEN" in the Troy Churchill angrey little prick hypoctritical Criteria.

You say both dogs are Outcrossed?

this bitch is 15/16th Brave Heart Blood 1/16th  Kennedy's Bam Bam 2
read the pedigree 15/16th is not an outcrossed pedigree...hell you could have 1/8th of another breed in there and it would still be an AB ...1/16th of different blood and you call that an out cross???? BullC h it  complete nonsense. Your next spin and devertion tactic is to say I'm trying to take credit for the breeding or this dog...I saw this dog, I'd of culled her, she is 18in tall and soft as a marshmellow. http://pic.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/1313907.jpg

Read the Pedigree it is deep line bred on my breedings my dogs

[url=http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/american_bulldog/dog.html?id=1313907-venns-arrested-development-of-badger-tuff17]http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/american_bulldog/dog.html?id=1313907-venns-arrested-development-of-badger-tuff

17[/url] shots of Braudzilla, 6 shots of Go Bullistic , 15 out of 16 dogs in the first 4 generations Brave Heart created, My work, My sort, My tests.......Linebreeding - 5 generationsInbreeding coefficientOccurrencesAncestorWright'sHardiman's4 - 4,51ST BULLY ABNA CH Brave Heart's Braudzilla PH.28.3600.79%04.49%        ↳5 - 5        ↳Bailey's/Manstopper's Ironman Tyson of MGK          ↳5 - 5        ↳Dailey's Mustang Sally  4,4 - 4,4,5Brave Heart's Go Bullistic PH.36.3200.81%08.01%        ↳5,5 - 5,5        ↳Brave Heart's Loggerhead          ↳5,5 - 5,5        ↳BH's Destiny Child of KMK, PH .60.60  4 - 5Brave Heart's Jazmine PH-0.48/0.4800.42%04.69%




She is Jaqc's Grand baby ...LOLhttp://pic.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/820594.jpg

between her and Wrecking Bull they are 7/8th Brave Heart read the pedigree Linebred on my dogs 8 generation deep.....1/8th Kennedy   that is not an outcross pedigree that is a deep and tight line breeding.


The point is  you say one thing and do another.....you talk ten types of BS on Brave Heart yet that is all you breed, that is all you have is lower quality Brave Heart dogs. 
Your actions prove you are not honest in your rederic,,,,3 yrs you have made it a point to lie, slander, spin 180 degree from the Brave Heart dogs that made you , declaring them all kinds of nonsene the kiss of death, greyhound crosses, Blah Blah Blah.......you claim there are a bunch of better breeders???

Then why dont you go get the great blood, breed to the better bloodline???
Why haven't you line bred on Kennedy Bloodline?
Why haven't you linebred on Dailey?????
Still to this day you are just a Photographer, Show dog Handler, Hype man and PIMP of Bracve Heart Bloodline Studs....10 yrs in and yiou have not produced anything noteworthy.......

Your game plans seems to hope I die or get run out of the breed, then my bloodline will become all yours and you can finally be a respected Breeder instead of the  angry AB Court Jester.








 

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5/15/2015 7:31 pm  #18


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Hey big V, I dont never agree with you but in this case you have made a whole lot of valid points. I just said troy wants to be you..

 

5/15/2015 7:35 pm  #19


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You claim this dog is better than anything I have???? That he is out crossed????LOL  Dailey's Peach???what an out cross....first of all she was 60lb, could not breath, produced Wry Jaw, Was daughter of Ulee, your self prfessed kiss of death, you listed a ton of offspring with bad hips, She herself had hips in the ,5-6s and she was one of the few Ulee kids not in the ,7s,plus ,,,,her litter before produced more Wry and dogs in the ,7s plus. Bred to Blue Bullistic PH.35.35  he threw his hips Brave Heart hips, they produced Roxxanne better structure, Muscle and Brave Heart Hips, but she is a squirrle weak tempered and one of the worse breathing  ABs I've ever seen.....I soldeverything in her litter even My pick because I did not want to  add that garbage.  You claimed Duke was better than Gaucho....LOL I pointed out dispite have PH.24.24 hips he was cross eyed , dopey temperament and nowhere close to  Guacho

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next to Gaucho ???? Better ...Ha ha  come on  close but not quite   and that is just pure looks  if breeding cool looks is all that matters ???But I'm all about improving, correcting problems and taking my line to a level that has never existed....Not Just Hips, Structure, Muscle second to none , but Drive, Breathing , Stamina, Working ability

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5/15/2015 7:40 pm  #20


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Tru 2 Da Game wrote:

Hey big V, I dont never agree with you but in this case you have made a whole lot of valid points. I just said troy wants to be you..

 
Brian, I think if anyone else said this you would call them a Dikryder??


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5/15/2015 7:41 pm  #21


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Vito, tell me how to produce these dogs??  I have been incapable of reproducing this type of dog.  Tasha has not been able to produce it either...............................Where did we go wrong??

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5/15/2015 8:10 pm  #22


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Tru 2 Da Game wrote:

Hey big V, I dont never agree with you but in this case you have made a whole lot of valid points. I just said troy wants to be you..

He tried to Black mail me out of the breed, but he could not offer enough money to get  the DNA Shell Game going, then he just tried to do it lieing and spinning

But even with all his BS , spin and exaggeration he is nothing but a Psuedo Brave Heart hype Pimp.....he has Frozen Semen on  Gaucho, BMJ, Huggy, Butters, Wrecking Turd  he has Studded them out over 55 times, more than I've studded my dogs out in 20 plus year.


 You know he was shook up bad after you spit in his face, he told me you were a very scarry guy...LOL  He told me he brought guns in his Van....LOL As was his Pose' packin,,,,LOL 
He was terrified and was greatful that Lou saved him from getting his ass kicked twice that day, once by you and the next from Coucil....Big Lou wishes he just let Troy get his ass beat , he thinks it would have been the best thing for him...LOL

 


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5/15/2015 8:15 pm  #23


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BHB wrote:

Tru 2 Da Game wrote:

Hey big V, I dont never agree with you but in this case you have made a whole lot of valid points. I just said troy wants to be you..

He tried to Black mail me out of the breed, but he could not offer enough money to get  the DNA Shell Game going, then he just tried to do it lieing and spinning

But even with all his BS , spin and exaggeration he is nothing but a Psuedo Brave Heart hype Pimp.....he has Frozen Semen on  Gaucho, BMJ, Huggy, Butters, Wrecking Turd  he has Studded them out over 55 times, more than I've studded my dogs out in 20 plus year.


 You know he was shook up bad after you spit in his face, he told me you were a very scarry guy...LOL  He told me he brought guns in his Van....LOL As was his Pose' packin,,,,LOL 
He was terrified and was greatful that Lou saved him from getting his ass kicked twice that day, once by you and the next from Coucil....Big Lou wishes he just let Troy get his ass beat , he thinks it would have been the best thing for him...LOL

 

I didn't have enough money??  Who are you trying to kid??  You were threatening to take your life, and you made one hell of an apology, WHY V??  If you were innocent, WHY V??

 


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5/15/2015 8:17 pm  #24


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Why V??  I got enough money to say that I can pass a lie detector test.  I have enough money to say that you can't pass a lie detector test LOL!!

BHB wrote:

The last few weeks  things have gotten way out of hand and I realize that I have had a big hand in a lot of it.

Its 6 days before Christmas, and time to celebrate Family and Friends, and all that I've experienced the past days are
extreme hate and darkness.  One of my favorite Quotes has always been this Quote by Dr Martin Luther King

                                    Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

                                            Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.




I'm guilty of spreading a lot of hate and darkness.........truly it is a character flaw of mine, ....the whole tit for tat is just



a big escalation of hate.........I should have not let it get this bad and for that I would like to apologize to everyone.





first person I want to apologized to is Liz Churchill..........reality is I admire her more than she knows , as a friend, a wife and the great mother I know her to be. It really sickens me to have involved her in this and in anyway  hurt her or her family with things I said.

Liz I apologize sincerely





next I want to apologize to Troy........I said things that were mean and meant to be hurtful. I'm sorry they were not true. I truly though of you as a friend I'd have for the rest of my life.........I'm not sure why things have become what they are ,I'm sorry for whatever I did to bring it to this point. I'm sorry for all the things I've said about you. I do not want to go back and forth with you or anyone. The dogs are very important to me but what people say on a message broad is no reason for all the things I've said. If I'd of just let opinions, comments go none of this drama would have escaladed.


I want to apologize to Tom for my comments, they were totally false and missleading.


I want to apologize to Steve and Polly Green, same thing I'm sorry for my posts toward you. I thought we were friends at one time, and I understand the reason for some of the things you have said to me. I should have just let it go and not accelerated it further and further.





Ish I'm sorry for anything I've said to you or done to you .





One of my favorite people is Barbie Lopez , I'm sorry for any dealing we've had that you felt slighted. I've never had anything but good intensions toward you and your family. I remember you did give me money for gas to drive to Nashville, I was wrong about that, I forgot that.



To anyone else that I have hurt or insulted , or embarrassed in any way.......I am sorry.





Like I said before I bred BMJ to his niece who was from Baby Girl and a RE dog for my olde program. To anyone that was effected by this I apologize .





I'm not a perfect person, my reactions are wrong on these boards I take full responsibility for them all. It is the Holidays, according to the Aztecs the end of days this friday.......i do not want to live or die  in this constant circle of hate............Life is too short , to many real tragedies in life, too much real suffering, thing like this over dogs is not very important. To the board I apologize, I want no part of any arguing about my dogs anymore and I will try my best  not spread hate or respond to anyones opinion.



Happy Holidays ,best wishes.........I hope the New Year bring change .


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5/15/2015 8:26 pm  #25


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CCB wrote:

Tru 2 Da Game wrote:

Hey big V, I dont never agree with you but in this case you have made a whole lot of valid points. I just said troy wants to be you..

 
Brian, I think if anyone else said this you would call them a Dikryder??

Troy the BIG BLACK MAN SCARRED YOU TOO DEATH....LOL  Your Wife stepped in when council was going to knock you the flock out....Big Lou stopped it all and talked Coucil down from beating you silly....Big Lou saved your sissy ass twice that weakend at my request ????? Lou wasnt even going to the Show that day...I asked him to go and protect you....OMG what an Idiot I was, Big Lou couldnt stand you because he knew you were a two face nancy that talked Shizzy behind his back about his dogs....they tried to tell me you were doing the samething to me...i could not believe it was true....for the mier fact that WTF did you have other than Brave Heart...what dogs did he have that were Note Worthy???Nothing Zip Nada.

Troy is terrified of Black people and Brian Hill terrified him....LOL  That is why he let him spit in his face without doing a thing about it....and Big Lou said it wasnt going to be too long before he would have neen knocked silly if he wouldnt of stepped in
 


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