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6/06/2015 10:09 pm  #1


Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Tried to get pics of this girl that captures her hulkiness and power....didn't really hit the mark she is nicer in person it was hot and humid today so it was hard getting a perked up pic withouit her mouth open. She is from BH PUMA x BH Supra ...... i call her Dotti for obvious reasons. She is Double Jaqc a Granddaughter and Great Granddaughter, also Great Grand niece to Gaucho, So Huggy, and Butters, Blue Bullistic,  Double BMJ, Meathead, Kat von D ....She is an improvement on many fronts....Her litter Mate is Chocolate Monster the Chocolate Male in France I believe she is over 12 month now. She physically put most Males in this breed to shame, I'd guess she is 23in true inch at the shoulder 85-90lbs . Great teeth, clean breathing so far,.good structure, nice movement, nice even temperament ....and she is not fully mature yet.

7. 6. 5. 4. 3.  2.   1......................
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6/07/2015 9:38 am  #2


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

i thought you were going for performance now ???? that front end looks to be lacking in the performance department ........ the spots are really nice though ......... i'd imagine what she lacks physically she makes up with in grit

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6/07/2015 10:26 am  #3


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Pedigree of bully dogs, and you still got a standard LOL!!  V, how come no one else has the same results as you??  How come everyone else gets bully??  That Jacq blood sure is strong...............

So here are the dogs you metion.............

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/churchiller/Butters/Butt5.jpg


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/churchiller/Huggy/IMG_7884.jpg


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/churchiller/Jaqc/Vito001.jpg


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/churchiller/Jaqc/meathead.jpg


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j114/churchiller/Jaqc/KatVD.jpg



How did you get these results??  Puma X Supra...........You can't fix Jacq!!
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6/07/2015 2:23 pm  #4


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Beside if their point is true or not...... She looks really nice, Impressive!!

 

6/07/2015 5:34 pm  #5


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

She is a nice female, but I do not see an improvement in that front.  I actually think its quite the opposite- a very poor front.  I like her streamline build.

By the way, how did the breeding with the Thor bloodline turn out.  I really was excited to see the results.  If I had more time, I probably would have tried to use him.  Almost called your friend.

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6/08/2015 1:07 am  #6


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

El Doctor wrote:

She is a nice female, but I do not see an improvement in that front.  I actually think its quite the opposite- a very poor front.  I like her streamline build.

By the way, how did the breeding with the Thor bloodline turn out.  I really was excited to see the results.  If I had more time, I probably would have tried to use him.  Almost called your friend.

Sal, I think you miss understood the meaning or intent of the Phrase " she is an Improvement on So many Fronts"

I was not talking specifically about her Front End..... Unless I have the phase incorrect, or misspelled.

What I saw she is an Improvement on so many fronts....the word from means Catigories, Levels, Features....not Specifically on Front end conformation.  I wasnt talking about her Front end compaired to other dogs fronts.
I ment in so many features or catigories...like the Temperament front, the Breathing front, the Size Front, The teeth, the Muscle....and i wasnt compairing her in any catigory to anyone elses line or dogs but in context to my line, my dogs .    Notice I stated she has "Great teeth, clean breathing so far,.good structure, nice movement, nice even temperament"  Which she does have good structure, not perfect, but better than Average "Good"  I think to say that she has a poor frontend is kind of a strech even judging from these couple pic...... I live on one of the highest points in the State my property is hilly, the yard she is in has a bit of a decline so most of the pics she is either facing up or down the hill. But anyway I thought it was funny.....My first generation American , English is not my first language so I understand your not being familiar with the phrase ..."Improvement on so many fronts"......I have a bunch of similar stories of my family, Mom, Dad, Aunts, uncles that had not heard perticular wordss or phrases.  One Story  with my dad  once I was at his work, painting a bathroom for him,when a client came in. This Client was a well know person in St Louis his family wasnt famous for good reasons and My dad was a bit appreihensive about him.  He came in to get some work done while he was there that day he asks my Dad   Hey where is your "John"
 My dad looked at him and Said WHO?....the guy quickly and kind of aggressively replies to my dad...JOHN...JOHN ...  My dad is all pissed and responds back a bit cross..." WHO??? I don't know no John????
The Guy then understood my dad didn't have a clue what he Ment so he responded back,,,,John, you no  your toilet !

My day who was kind of hot at this point, said  OHH  Toilet Why didnt you say that....my dad had never heard this term for a Toilet or Bath room??? John to him was a person and he took it this unsavory guy was starting trouble asking for some  John guy  he did not know .


 As far as my  Rowe Standard AB outcross it has been great...I placed two pups with Hog Hunters both pups did really well....The Longest Muzzle girl went to a friend who is a big hog hunter in Texas, she is 17 month now and we plan on breeding her to her Cousin Mick. I kept a nice girl I call Sunshine, she is really nice just small, I'll breed her next year back to My dog Klyde probably. The surprising thing about Eric Rowes line is they are very short muzzled and kind of Bully in the White English Sense like Boss Hog was....it is very strong in his line

I'm really happy with that litter....Great Drives , great Temperaments, everything is good, except size, some longer backs, some too short on leg, a little  handler sensitive, not sure they are suited for man work.....but good bully type for what i like, great scissor bites dispite the short muzzles, some intense prey drives...my girl Sunshine is ultra sweet and outgoing . All in all one of my better outcrosses


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6/08/2015 1:18 am  #7


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

guss wrote:

Beside if their point is true or not...... She looks really nice, Impressive!!

Thanks Guss   She really is a great girl...Trust me their point in pointless they would talk chit if she layed golden eggs and farted rose peddles...LOL  but i'm really surprised they haven't started a lie about my crossing in Dalmatian in...LOL
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6/08/2015 1:44 am  #8


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Now a 23in 85-90lb bitch with a 1/2in undershot and a 2.25in muzzle is Standard...LOL  You should of gone with Dalmatian....LOL 

Troy her muzzle is shorter than these females you have been bragging on as so great for the breed?
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/fagtroy.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/websize/dotti.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-002.jpg

 If Dotti is Standard call me a standard breeder I do not care Troy.

I think it is funny you whine and talk so much crap ...long muzzles, Standard type....Blah Blah Blah...Wrecking Bull fits the AB standard Meet the Minimum of Muzzle Length and Height....Yet your bragging on him being bred to a 100lb bitch with a 3in muzzle???? or When Taboo 100% Dailey top of the Bully Heap on Bully Bully Type  produces Standard pups bred to Caddy Who is Mainly Bully Blood...then it is a gift from the Universe ....LOL  Your insecurity is so obvious, you stalk me on Face Book and  pay very close attention to every thing i say and  regurgitate it as your wisdom and original thought....LOL  Kid you are so lost, and clueless, you are nowhere without me and my bloodline.....it is comical....if you only knew hos far behind you are from my current yard ....LOL  troy I own you and dude I want to sell bad....LOL

  http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/websize/eusodumb.jpg

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6/08/2015 6:45 am  #9


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

V her markings take getting used too... But she is muscle and mass...


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6/08/2015 6:59 am  #10


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

V, your female is a complete departure from your programs type!  How many generations later and you still can't get rid of Jacq's influence!  From the head, to the front end, right down to the body!!  Those originals couldn't produce a dog like that, it is genetically impossible!!


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6/08/2015 4:17 pm  #11


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

BHB wrote:

guss wrote:

Beside if their point is true or not...... She looks really nice, Impressive!!

Thanks Guss   She really is a great girl...Trust me their point in pointless they would talk chit if she layed golden eggs and farted rose peddles...LOL  but i'm really surprised they haven't started a lie about my crossing in Dalmatian in...LOL
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/websize/IMG_3291.JPG

 

I actualy like this dog....... however, YOU? thats another story........i love how your constantly putting things out there like this "dalmation" comment you just said lol.......stop trying to out smart others vito, nobody is thinking what you hope when you make a comment like this lol.......NO we wont think "WOW,HE KEEPS BRINGING THIS UP" "HE MUST NOT HAVE DONE ANY OF WHAT HES BEEN CONVICTED OF IF HE THROWS HIMSELF UNDER THE BUS".........everytime you post something like this it only makes you look as GUILTY as others have already found you........for ME atleast if you keep it about the dog and what youre doing in the future ill let it go.......but to still try to laugh at us by TRYING to outhink us with CHILDISH PSYCHOLOGY????? shows me and many others how much it truly destroyed you when this community outcasted you for life..... oh and vito heres a piece of advice....... when you want to find out where i live ? just ask bruh, dont be making phone calls to half of miami......my advice to you is this.......keep it on the boards and dont take it anywhere else.......kind of man calls other men trying ti find out where i live and stuff about my personal life  like a scorned mistress????? my life is transparent you un aborted child you.......i own my own buisness. hell i pay over $100,000 just to make my buisness move every year lol.....pay my own mortgage,pay my mothers home in the florida keys,just bought my little brother his own car,pay for my childrens education,pay for my cars,pay for my boat gas, drinks,parties are all out of my pocket.......been arrested for driving while license suspended 3 times THATS IT.........love to drink on the weekends......been married to my high school sweet heart for the last 18 years..never once laid a finger on her.....now tell me what in any of these things can you say you have in common with me ????? nothing,nada cause the things above are called SUCCESSSSSSSSSS and YOU are a FAILURE.......ive known about you trying to do this for A LOOOOOONNNGGGGGG time and THATS why i TRULY dislike you, you sperm stain on a matress you......youre an old, unhealthy, FAT should of been aborted old man that will and HAS stooped to the lowest of places in order to keep his EVIL,CONIVING,FRAUDULENT ways alive even if it means making up stories about other mens PERSONAL lives in order to do what ???????? sell dogs bro lol......SELL DOGS......now thats what i call success......


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6/09/2015 8:51 am  #12


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

LOLTFF.........

BHB wrote:

Now a 23in 85-90lb bitch with a 1/2in undershot and a 2.25in muzzle is Standard...LOL  You should of gone with Dalmatian....LOL 

Troy her muzzle is shorter than these females you have been bragging on as so great for the breed?
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/fagtroy.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/websize/dotti.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/small/cccaddydaughter-002.jpg

 If Dotti is Standard call me a standard breeder I do not care Troy.

I think it is funny you whine and talk so much crap ...long muzzles, Standard type....Blah Blah Blah...Wrecking Bull fits the AB standard Meet the Minimum of Muzzle Length and Height....Yet your bragging on him being bred to a 100lb bitch with a 3in muzzle???? or When Taboo 100% Dailey top of the Bully Heap on Bully Bully Type  produces Standard pups bred to Caddy Who is Mainly Bully Blood...then it is a gift from the Universe ....LOL  Your insecurity is so obvious, you stalk me on Face Book and  pay very close attention to every thing i say and  regurgitate it as your wisdom and original thought....LOL  Kid you are so lost, and clueless, you are nowhere without me and my bloodline.....it is comical....if you only knew hos far behind you are from my current yard ....LOL  troy I own you and dude I want to sell bad....LOL

  http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/websize/eusodumb.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/voodooambull/summer2014/large/IMG_3269.JPG

 


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6/09/2015 9:30 am  #13


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

it's good to see someone else recognize the poor conformation on this dog ........ there is nothing about this dog that would make me think it's a good breather , she's thick , with abnormal conformation in the chest and front ...makes me think of swimmer pups ... i'd question her ability to  move good or for any length of time   .......... sometimes you see how a dogs built and you can be pretty sure about some stuff .......

in ohio our fence post and trees tend to be vertical .....http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png

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6/09/2015 9:54 am  #14


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

V is she better than Grace in your eyes???


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6/09/2015 11:43 am  #15


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Uncle Ish wrote:

V is she better than Grace in your eyes???

In structure. Muscle. No. But in several other way yes

She just one of a line up that keeps getting better and better
That's all haven't claimed she is anything but what I posted my best bitch and the best AB I've ever produced is Ms B    She isn't perfect either but she is closer to perfect  and where she is strong is in areas the bully side of the breed is weak in an epodemic proportion  Ms B that is. Not Dotti. Dotti is a very nice bitch   Ms B is a pin oval achievment


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6/09/2015 12:09 pm  #16


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

I would love to see this female on a scale.  There is no way IMO that she is 85-90lb.  Her bone is fine and she is extremely lean.  She is not the proportions or size of BMJ, WB, or Gaucho.  This female I would guess to be mid 70's, maybe 80 tops!!


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6/09/2015 12:10 pm  #17


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Any pics of Miss B??? Sounds like you made an ideal female for you  to build from... Anxious to see her...


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6/09/2015 4:42 pm  #18


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Nice athletic looking young female..I'd say better than a lot of the dogs out there..I know you guys have a hard on for Vito,and have his dogs in your dogs pedigree..which makes me scratch my head when he is bashed constantly...but all in all ,nice female..good job

 

6/09/2015 7:34 pm  #19


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

JimmyE wrote:

Nice athletic looking young female..I'd say better than a lot of the dogs out there..I know you guys have a hard on for Vito,and have his dogs in your dogs pedigree..which makes me scratch my head when he is bashed constantly...but all in all ,nice female..good job

Jimmy, how did that BH blood work out for you.  You needed a replacement didn't you!!  You know the deal, so don't try and defend him.  You are lucky to have gotten a socialized pup from Kim.  Maybe this one will act like a bulldog!!
 


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6/09/2015 9:00 pm  #20


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

I do know the deal...and wrecking bull is 75 % braveheart blood yes or no???So how is it working out  for you..And yes Kim did beautiful job socializing my pup Mako,hats off to her,she is a class act...Look I'm not defending anybody...It's just the same old bashing..it's gotten  old ,and makes the bulldog community look stupid..This is not my first BH blood,my dog Gator was half Dailey and BH..and he was a beast..Great dog,and I appreciated him a lot..U breeders need to work together not against each other,or this breed will never strive..just my 2cents

 

6/09/2015 9:27 pm  #21


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

Hey Jimmy.  I was there when you were calling about how upset you were.  You spent good money and Vito sent you a pup full of worms.  And on top of that he had a weak temperament.  Now you want to come on here and defend him.  My dogs are what they are.  But they were carefully selected, and they all are tail up and straight ahead.  There is a huge difference between what I have, and what he has.  Gator sounded like a cool dog.  But he still passed early of kidney problems.  So lets just keep it real!!


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6/10/2015 7:43 am  #22


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

what about her looks athletic ???????? her front looks pretty dysfunctional as far as breathing and movement . if it were one of mine i'd consider it a deformity ...... if you stood her on level ground  , or even just didn't tilt the photos , i think her topline  wouldn't be pretty ....... the owner aside , this dogs conformation , imo , is pet quality ,,,
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6/12/2015 9:54 am  #23


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my ass!
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6/12/2015 7:08 pm  #24


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

BHB wrote:

When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my ass!
Bobby Knight

Make sure you take these two mutts with you.... Still tricking folks out of their hard earned money huh Vito? How many Olde's dogs have you sold as American Bulldogs?

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/jamesporch/11354963_10_zpsp3ezyw8y.jpg

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6/13/2015 7:23 am  #25


Re: Jaqcology......BRAVE HEART'S JAQC SPOT ###########################

This is a 9 mo old female 1/4 Kennedy 3/4 Brave Heart....I did not produce or sell this female.  She was owned by one of the most successful olde breeders in the game today.  They bought her for good money because she is linebred  Brave Heart, they wanted to add the qualities of Structure, Muscle ..... Unfortunately she did not work out because she is too drivey, not an easy keep and they got a Wrecking bull female AB Adult given to them that will fit in their Olde program Much better.

So James Porch once again you do not have a clue WTF you are talking about.

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